John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. Andrew it will take me forever to prove or disprove connections to any Royalty. Thank you for doing this Joe and Andrew and others. 4. 19. 17. 8. Margaret Tudor (1489-1541) 4. 10. 14. How could a modern-day comedian turn out to be related to a medieval monarch? Henry is the son of Henry Anderson Dickinson [confident] John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England. Lora and Edward III are third cousins 21 times removed. Elizabeth Mansfield has loads of ancestry. Post them here or in a separate G2G post and we will create new categories and new lists to track them. 8. 19. Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] Hi Joe and thank you for the work you are doing on Edward III! Iver is the son of Mary (Macgregor) McKay [unknown confidence] Stranger things have happened. Samuel Adam (McKay) McCoyWhy did his surname spelling change? 10. Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) 3. The problems tend to start back in the old countries. 25. It's just a question of degree.". Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700. 15. Nearly every person living the 21st century who has English, Irish, Scots, or Welsh ancestry is very likely descended from King Edward III (1312-1377). 15. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident] and Hartford and Windsor, Connecticut I:114, Almy, Audrey (Barlow), of Lynn and Sandwich, Mass. Patrick is the son of Andrew Agnew [unknown confidence] Enter any two WikiTree IDs to see their genealogical relationship. Andrew is the son ofKatherine Gordon[unknownconfidence] This list currently is 70 individuals representing 55 different families. (#3693) 7. Obediah is the son ofSarah (Flanders) Clement[unknownconfidence] T 1. Robert is the son of John Gordon [unknown confidence], 13. 1. Added: The PGM immigrant descendants (i.e. I will get to all of these potential lines eventually. Henry is the son ofHenry Percy KG[unknownconfidence] Thanks, that made my day! (Round 3). James is the son of Katherine Agnew [unknown confidence], 8. It will be nice when Wikitree can go back to Charlemagne and find relationship to him or for that matter any ancestor that far back. Michael is the son ofMichael Marion Woods Sr[unknownconfidence] Agnes is the daughter ofJohn Douglas[unknownconfidence] 18. Best Known For: American socialite Wallis Simpson became the mistress of Edward, Prince of Wales. I share it below. Terry Booth disputes this. Nathaniel is the son of Elizabeth (Savage) White [unknown confidence] 19. They had a son Thomas but he married Elizabeth Whitmore and died in 1655. There appears to be no evidence that Frank Wheatleigh even had a wife named Mary, so Mary Fiennes may never have existed. Are the genes that put kings on thrones now producing a celebrity aristocracy? Thomas is the son of Elizabeth (Percy) Neville [confident] My husband, [[Strutt-262|David Strutt]] is a direct descendant of Edward III, Plantagenet-70. 20. The idea of royalty is wrapped in ideas of being special and apart - but Prof King says the genetic reality is that we're all the product of centuries of mixing and merging, migration, social rises and falls, interrelated in many ways. She seems to have been adopted by an extra daughter, but that's not your line. Joan is the daughter of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [unknown confidence] Charles is the son of Henry (Somerset) Beaufort [unknown confidence] Mary is the daughter of Joan (Beaufort) de Neville LG Probably lots of people who are would not be able to prove it with documentary evidence," says Mr Holton. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#FrancoisJoyeusedied1556B. 18. William Asfordby, Charles Barnes, Marmaduke Beckwith, William Farrar, Elizabeth Mansfield, Anne Mansfield, John Mansfield, Robert Spotswood, Robert Rose, Margaret Toshach. King edward the 3rd is my 22nd great grandfather my dad has somthing to prove it too Hi Darrel, Wikitree does have a profile for Charlemagne, Thanks for the information Andrew it much appreciated. These appear to be the key references. 10. He has an extensive write-up by Anderson in the Great Migration Series. Colin is the son of Archibald (Campbell) fourth Earl of Argyll [unknown confidence] Elizabeth). John is the son of Joan Janet Stewart [unknown confidence], 14. Edward IV of England (1442-1483) 2. There is almost certainly a problem at the immigrant generation, but we will check it out. Thanks Darrell, the link contains so much interesting research on this family line. Includes citations for all sources. 1. New England Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent. 19. 17. Edward III is the 16th great grandfather of Ulysses S. (Uncertain) 1. 14. 6. 13. Lynden, I put this line as a separate answer so I can track it more easily. Patrick is the son ofPatrick James McKie[unknownconfidence] and I believe my connection is a second bogus connection: it's via Martha Bliss, daughter of Thomas Bliss, married to Nicholas Ide. 20. Herein are listed all the known descendants of Edward III for 12 generations. Rather than separate trees, she says family links become like interwoven thickets. This would be someone rich, famous or perhaps infamous enough to be well documented and provide a trail for a family historian. 16. 12. One day you stumble upon one of your ancestors on an Internet tree. Mary (Macgregor) McKayBorn Argyll, unsourced. Rev. 11. You start to learn about geopolitical competition and the political development of Britain in a way you never imagined. 1. The Ryther marriage is totally impossible. William is the son ofRalph Eure[unknownconfidence] 20. Eleanor Greystoke has an Uncertain flag, citing an old book with an old Eure pedigree that makes her Ralph Greystoke's daughter. John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [unknown confidence] Hannibal Wheatley's 1902 Genealogy of the Wheatley Family states, without documentation, that Dorothy's father Frank Wheatleigh married "Mary Fienes granddaughter of Lord Dacre, who was executed in 1541." You start to read about your ancestors on Wikipedia. 7. Thomas is the son ofThomas Fiennes[unknownconfidence] FYI: we've also been dinged before that Scottish wives generally didn't take their husbands last names until very recently. 1. 16. Some kings even made their illegitimate children their heirs when they did not procure any legitimate ones. Mary; its possible her parents sources have some information about her husband. 12. Charles, of Scituate and Plymouth, MA, Cooke, Elizabeth (Haynes), of Cambridge, MA, Davie, Humphrey, of Boston, MA, & Hartford, CT, Dudley, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury/Dedham, MA, Edwards, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Farwell, Olive (Welby), of Concord & Chelmsford, MA, Hackburne, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury & Dedham, MA, Harlakenden, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Harris, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Haugh, Elizabeth (Bulkeley), of Cambridge & Boston, MA, Hutchinson, Anne (Marbury), of Boston, MA, RI, & NY, Hutchinson, Katherine (Hamby), of Boston, MA, Ludlow, Roger, of Dorchester, MA; Windsor & Fairfield, CT, Mellowes, Martha (Bulkeley), of Charlestown, MA, Negus, Jane (Deighton) (Lugg), of Boston, MA, Palgrave, Dr. Richard, of Charlestown, MA, Pelham, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Pelham, Jemima (Waldegrave), of Cambridge, MA, Pole (or Poole), Elizabeth, of Taunton, MA, Pole (or Poole), William, of Dorchester & Taunton, MA, Pynchon, Amy (Wyllys/Willis), of Springfield, MA, Saltonstall, Muriel (Gurdon), of Ipswich, MA, Saltonstall, Richard, of Watertown & Ipswich, MA, Scott, Katherine (Marbury), of Massachusetts & RI, Spencer, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Taylor, James, Gent., of Boston & Lynn, MA, Throckmorton, John, of Salem, MA, Providence & Warwick, RI, & NJ, Torrey, [Rev.] Thomas is the son ofAlice (Fitzhugh) Fiennes[unknownconfidence] Unfortunately that is also the connection (Francois to supposed father Robert) that establishes her gateway ancestor status. The lineage was discovered through James Stewart, Duke of Rothesay (1507-1508) 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2011), Richardson, Douglas. 2. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Thomas is the son ofRobert Constable I[unknownconfidence] I guess were related on many levels! And her husband died a year before the first of the four was born. Thanks Joe already looking for Thomas and others, and added the source with the records and transcripts + translations, to the post above. I am not in a hurry at all and I appreciate your help, as well as the help of those who went before us to build these trees. I'm trying to go back through these lines to see which still need fixing. * Humphrey married 2. What this really shows, according to genealogy experts, is that if you look back far enough a surprisingly high number of people will find a royal ancestor. Thomas had married Nicholas' mother, "widow Ide." Abraham is the son ofJohn Fitz III[unknownconfidence] Apparently a violent drunk, he terrorized the neighboring town of Tavistock for a number of years. but Vincent will have got it from the Visitation, so it's not independent. 12. Iver McKayEmigrant, bornKilmory, Bute, Scotland, Unsourced. Joan is the daughter of Joan (Beaufort) Stewart [unknown confidence], 15. 13. 11. Being able to navigate a path back to an identifiable medieval relative often depends on finding a "gateway ancestor", says Else Churchill, a genealogist at the Society of Genealogists in London. mentuons another John Harrington in circulation, though it doesn't say how he connects. The origins ofCaptain Thomas Savageare not known from what I can tell and needs to be disconnected from the Savage of Rock Savage line. WebThese individuals, who have asked to not be publicly identified, are descendants of Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (1744-1803) who was 15 generations removed from Edward III by an all-male line. Jonathon is the son ofElizabeth (Bliss) Wilmarth[unknownconfidence] Because the records of most ordinary families would not stretch back that far, most people would not know about their link. 23. Instead of entering these manually you can click a "Relationship to Me" link from a profile pull-down menu or a Relationship Finder icon on your Watchlist, a Trusted List, etc. 2. 7. 15. Australian, South African, European, etc.)? Regarding that second line I posted above, I find that my paternal grandmother has a different supposed lineage to Edward that runs through Henry Peck, the brother of John Peck Esq, whose profile is one of several that has particularly weak sourcing. I appreciate it. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Savage [unknown confidence] 5. Mary is the daughter ofThomas Southard Jr.[unknownconfidence] This is perfectly normal. Ulysses S. is the son of Jesse Root Grant [confident] 2. 13. Ironically, Every persona in the Magna Carta drama (all Surety Barrons and The King John), are my great grandfathers! John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident]. The Bagley connection is very interesting. Iver is the son of Duncan McKay [unknown confidence] The Military Order of the Crusades (MOC) maintains a list of gateway ancestors that will take you on an exciting journal across Europe and into the Middle East. 2. This trail tells us that Archibald is the 14th great grandfather of Beth. Seems unlikely. 11. 12. But when a TV show focuses on such a link to a monarch, she has to "try not to shout at the telly" about the huge number of other less glamorous ancestors who are being ignored on the way. 12. and heiress named Janet who m. (1) Lachlan Mackintosh of Dunachtan and (2) James Ogilvy of Cardell, with her lands being discharged to her half-brother Sir Robert of Glen (not in WT). Its happened to all of us. Peter Bulkeley, of Concord, Massachusetts I: 111; II: 10, Bulkeley, Grace (Chetwode), of Concord, Massachusetts II: 10, Bulkeley, Rev. I will let you know though there a bunch of these I need to check out now. Agnes is the daughter ofAnne (Greystoke) Bigod[unknownconfidence] Jane whom I assume was David Kennedy, 1st Earl of Cassillis. Sarah is the daughter ofAnne (Lumpkin) Eldredge[unknownconfidence] Daniel is the son of Iver McKay [uncertain] http://news.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2013-08/1375902884. 22. Iver is the son of Duncan McKay [unknown confidence], 3. is that William Gordon was not a good match for her - he wasn't a titled noble, and he didn't get a title out of the marriage. Katherine is the daughter ofAgnes Bigod[unknownconfidence] Questionable Gateway Ancestors) of Henry Peck are Robert Peck and Joseph Peck. 11. 4. Samuel, of Hull and Weymouth, Massachusetts III: 269, Torrey, Capt. 8. https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/366945/alleged-royal-ancestry-of-edward-southworth. According to the research, Markle, a Los Angeles-born American citizen, is a 24th generation descendant of King Edward III. According to the research, Markle, a Los Angeles-born American citizen, is a 24th generation descendant of King Edward III. Using previous models of the numbers of descendants over the generations, he says as a broad estimate there could be two million people alive now related to Edward I. 13. William is the son ofJanet (Livingston) Bruce[unknownconfidence] Well, Lumpkin-1 may need more sourcing; there's a comment: This poor woman had a child when she was 49 years old and three when she was 59. 7. And this means that both of the alleged lineages I posted here are removed from WikiTree. John is the son of James M (Wilcox) Willcox [unknown confidence] of Ivy Mlls. 16. This trail tells us that Edward III is the18th great grandfatherof Kristina. Welcome to Geni, home of the world's largest family tree. 20. Born 23 Mar 1732 in Ivy Mills, Concord Township, Delaware, Pennsylvania. On 8th June 1376, Edwards son and heir, Edward the Black Prince, died. I have Charlemagne many times. "I do know people who have been rocked by finding something like that. Prof King, a presenter on Roland's guide to surviving medieval genealogy in the Internet age. named Jean matching the House of Gordon but Douglas seems to imply they never were actually married or consummated the marriage; she supposedly m.Archibald Douglas but she was never described as the Countess of Angus; the DNB describes her as his mistress. male line descendants of Edward III via John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort (17441803) are U152 xL2,Z36,Z56,M126,M160,Z192. 4. Duncan is the son of Duncan M'Kie [unknown confidence] Alice is the daughter ofAnne Harris[unknownconfidence] Archibald III is the son of Archibald Campbell [unknown confidence] Katherine is the daughter ofPatrick Agnew[unknownconfidence] Copied here to make easier to research and comment on: 3. 8. Mary is the daughter ofMoses Embree[unknownconfidence] 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2011). John is the son ofWilliam Knox[unknownconfidence] I don't think that she is the only person who may not have existed in that book including her husband. "Family is not necessarily genes, and family isn't necessarily ancestry," she says. But it wasn't about being related to a medieval king. Only some of these are from New England and several lines may only include a few surviving descendants. 18. 19. 21. 7. 6. 22. It is not in wikitree, which shows the earliest common ancestor at King John. John is the son ofAnne (Eure) Mansfield[confident] His da. 15. 10. Mary is the daughter of James Campbell [uncertain] 11. The entire early portion of this line is undocumented and is likely incorrect. He married Eleanor Bohun, by whom he had five children, and died at Calais in September 10. Nancy is the daughter ofBenjamin Knox[unknownconfidence] 16. https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Plantagenet-70&person2_name=Beauchamp-1979. RJ, had suggested to me, Jane Finch, mother of Hawte Wyatt, for a trail I was working on to reach one of the Magna Carta Barons. Elizabeth is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[unknownconfidence] William is the son ofHarrison Henry[unknownconfidence] People are increasingly turning to DNA for family links. Edmund Berkeley (1823-1915) 5. Dan is the son ofDaniel C. Joslin[confident] 16. Mary is the daughter of Catherine (Campbell) MacGregor [unknown confidence] Robert Loxley is the son ofGeorge Stubblefield[unknownconfidence] She is my 10th great greandmother. It didn't change her sense of family relationships, and it also didn't dampen her enthusiasm for the detective work of genealogy. They also did us no favors by missing the Mayflower so they aren't researched by Pilgrim scholars. "We've all got the same number of ancestors, we just don't always know their names," she says. THOMAS1 SHEPARD, born at Towcester, Northamptonshire, England, 5 Nov. 1605, died at Cambridge, Mass., 25 Aug. 1649; married in England, in 1632, (1) Margaret Touteville (i.e., Stouteville, Samuel Cole (3) Boston 16 October 1660 Ann (Mansfield) Keayne, widow; born about 1596-7 (aged about 21 on 17 June 1617 and aged 38 years when she came in the Defense in 1635. Lucy is the daughter of Anne (Heslarton) Buckton Patrick is the son ofJames McKie[unknownconfidence] 7. WebHere is a Native American family's descent from Edward III: Edward III = Philippa of Hainault. 19. Josh Widdicombe discovered he was a descendant of Edward I, who died more than 700 years ago. Michael is the son ofJohn Andrew Woods[unknownconfidence] One of those relationships is a possible direct relationship to Edward I. I did find some grandfathers I didn't know about. Edward III Project: Gateway Ancestors - do you have one? Isabelle is the daughter ofCatherine (Neville) Mowbray[uncertain] Join Geni to explore your genealogy and family history in the World's Largest Family Tree. 6. Sir Thomas is the son ofIsabelle (Strangeways) Gerard[unknownconfidence] This trail tells us that Edward III is the 15th great grandfather of Daniel. 1. Thomas, of Cambridge, Ipswich, and Roxbury, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Eaton, Mabel (Harlakenden), of Hartford, Connecticut III: 225; III: 27 4, Edwards, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, Massachusetts and Hartford, Connecticut III: 234, Farwell, Olive (Welby), of Concord and Chelmsford, Massachusetts V: 330, Giddings, Jane (Lawrence), of Ipswich, Massachusetts III: 552, Goddard, William, of Watertown, Massachusetts Ill: 92, Hackburne, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury and Dedham, Massachusetts II: 412, II: 477, Harlakenden, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 225; V: 355, Harlakenden, [Lieut. Helen is the daughter ofIsabel (Gerrard) Langton[unknownconfidence] Janet is the daughter ofAgnes (Douglas) Livingston[unknownconfidence] Beatrice is the daughter of Jane (Campbell) Mackintosh [unknown confidence] I started a new G2G topic for the Southworths. John is the son of John (Savage) of Rocksavage 1st Bt. Chaos at port as thousands rush to leave Sudan, Air strikes pound Sudan capital as truce extended, Suspected IS chief killed in Syria, Turkey says. 11. 14. Benjamin is the son ofBenjamin Wallingford[unknownconfidence] Once you go even further back, a few thousand years or so, the genetics professor says there are even bigger patterns of common ancestry, not just within Britain, but shared between people living in different countries and continents. John is the son ofAlice Harry[unknownconfidence] John is the son ofMary (Sydenham) Fitz[unknownconfidence] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120/mb.ashx Bea - if you could also look into Edward Southworth, Thomas' supposed younger brother and his sons Constant and Thomas I'd appreciate it!
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